Ah, I'd very much enjoy it if you'd stop suggesting people use tape and/or ace bandages to bind.. those materials are not breathable and can cause serious damage to your lungs. If you need to bind for more than an hour or two, like at a con, I'd really STRONGLY suggest investing in a binder.. a simple one that looks like a sports bra usually costs around $30 dollars but trust me, it's so much safer and healthier. ftm.underworks, T-Kingdom.. there are so many places that sell binders. Be smart!